Comments on: Atheist or Agnostic?

By: martin

martin — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:16:09 +0000

I'm guessing Mido's never heard of Russell's teapot ) What he said really reminded me of that.

Up next… Carlin's frisbeetarians come and preach. But that won't drive us up walls… only on roofs.

By: bornslacker

bornslacker — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:35:07 +0000

That is not a valid argument. That's nothing but assertion. If you want to preach, please find another site to do it on. Your words fall on deaf ears.

By: MIDO

MIDO — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:56:25 +0000

My believe that there is a GOD… He is the only one ,, he is the one who created us & the whole universe .
And No one but him…that made the universe that accurate without mistakes …without mistakes
Because there should be a highest power that controls everything … the only one who sent all 4 religious books . ourselves , our planet , the moon , the sun ( and their cycles between day & night ) they never missed it , what we eat , what we drink ( when the clouds run to an area & the rain ) its amazing how he controls everything in a very simple way . Imagine a company without a manager, without a policy how will it run ? who rewards us when we do good ? , who punishes when we do bad ? who will we ask for help? ….We ask the only one GOD / ALLAH

By: MIDO

MIDO — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:21:45 +0000

I have a little story to share , Last week i took my family to one of the lakes in texas, while we were there i looked at the other side of the lake & i saw alot of trees & nice villas , a place where i really needed to be , anyways while i was thinking how to go there i saw a woody stick on the water moving toward the lake bank & started rotating around itself & after 3 minutes around 40 woody sticks came beside it to the lake bank , they stuck together creating a platform !! hmmm… what was that ? I was amazed , anyways i steped on that platform & started to move toward the other side of the lack , it took me 5 minutes to get there , i spent around 15 minutes & i came back on the same platform ……..CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS ?.
BY MIDO

By: bornslacker

bornslacker — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:15:52 +0000

Unless you're thinking of it like, "If you KNOW something to be true or not true, there's no more need for belief."

I suppose that's right, but that could be equally applied to theists. If they KNOW there is a God, then they don't need to BELIEVE in God, but they don't NOT believe as well.

By: bornslacker

bornslacker — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:14:05 +0000

Gnostic Atheist = “I know there is no God, and I don’t believe in him/her/it.”

Your sky blue analogy is a positive/negative statement and therefore contradicts itself. Gnostic atheists make a negative/negative claim and is therefore not contradictory.

If I know something does not exist, it's pretty apparent that I also don't believe in it. No contradiction there that I can see.

By: karhu

karhu — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:08:33 +0000

To Rick, what I meant was… logically, how can you know something but deny it?
I know the sky is blue, but I don't believe it is blue.
Basically, I am challenging the existence of a Gnostic Atheist.

By: bornslacker

bornslacker — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:07:15 +0000

"As it comes to religion, faith or any other supernatural/metaphysical nonsense I am:
.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Agnostic (just for philosophical concerns)
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% Atheist "

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… Then you are an agnostic atheist. Again, whether you think you can or cannot "know" something is a totally different discussion.

The point I'm making is that not all atheist are making the positive assertion of knowledge that there is no God.

(A)gnosticism, refers to knowledge. As such when presented with the question, "do you believe in God" any thing other than "Yes" makes you an atheist. Not an agnostic, but an atheist. (A)gnosticism only comes into play when asked the question, "is there a God" and is independent of your beliefs.

btw, thanks for commenting. I look forward to hearing from you again.

By: RtPt

RtPt — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:39:57 +0000

As it comes to religion, faith or any other supernatural/metaphysical nonsense I am:
.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Agnostic (just for philosophical concerns)
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% Atheist

By: RtPt

RtPt — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:37:16 +0000

Agnostic can be put in front of any group or thought. Philosophically we cannot know anything 100%. So agnosticism is a given for any human being. Yes, we cannot prove anything 100%. We can prove theories or pieces of information by repeated scientific testing up to almost certainty. It is the best we can do. The truth, facts or information can often be known up to 99.99999999999999999%. Agnosticism is easily taken out of the premise. We are left with the proof of the supernatural/metaphysical. By definition we cannot prove them using the scientific method, they are faith-based nonsense. The question is: Do you have faith or not?
Yes – Theist, Deist, Gnosticism, etc.
No – Atheist

The rest of the definition
Given – Agnostic