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		<title>By: Juwian</title>
		<link>http://thinkreason.net/117/atheism-vs-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-286</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah show us your imaginary friend. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah show us your imaginary friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Gozales</title>
		<link>http://thinkreason.net/117/atheism-vs-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Gozales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture is HIGHLY inaccurate.You know, Darwin was a Christian, he just thought of the &quot;evolution&quot; idea. Abraham Lincoln believed in a God, quoting God and Bible verses in some of his speeches. Einstien was not an Athiest, but not a Christian he once said in an interview that &quot;In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.&quot; Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson was a Diest. Now I do not know the gentleman on the Top left and I am pretty sure Carl was an Atheist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture is HIGHLY inaccurate.You know, Darwin was a Christian, he just thought of the &quot;evolution&quot; idea. Abraham Lincoln believed in a God, quoting God and Bible verses in some of his speeches. Einstien was not an Athiest, but not a Christian he once said in an interview that &quot;In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.&quot; Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson was a Diest. Now I do not know the gentleman on the Top left and I am pretty sure Carl was an Atheist.</p>
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		<title>By: bornslacker</title>
		<link>http://thinkreason.net/117/atheism-vs-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says you have to live a life of absolutes? Atheism is nothing more than the disbelief in a claim. Agnosticism isn&#039;t a middle ground like &quot;purgatory&quot;. Agnosticism refers to knowledge, not belief and should be used in conjunction with theist/atheist. It sounds like with respect to a deist god (some kind of higher moving force) you&#039;re an agnostic atheist, meaning you don&#039;t know, but you don&#039;t believe. Evidence could still be presented to persuade you otherwise. With regard to the Judeo-Christian God, you&#039;re a gnostic atheist, meaning you know that god doesn&#039;t exist, and therefore disbelieve in it. You reject that claim as being logically impossible due to free will. 
 
There&#039;s no reason to be absolutist about your beliefs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says you have to live a life of absolutes? Atheism is nothing more than the disbelief in a claim. Agnosticism isn&#039;t a middle ground like &quot;purgatory&quot;. Agnosticism refers to knowledge, not belief and should be used in conjunction with theist/atheist. It sounds like with respect to a deist god (some kind of higher moving force) you&#039;re an agnostic atheist, meaning you don&#039;t know, but you don&#039;t believe. Evidence could still be presented to persuade you otherwise. With regard to the Judeo-Christian God, you&#039;re a gnostic atheist, meaning you know that god doesn&#039;t exist, and therefore disbelieve in it. You reject that claim as being logically impossible due to free will. </p>
<p>There&#039;s no reason to be absolutist about your beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I struggle to find just where I fit in...how and WHY does it have to be so &quot;all or nothing&quot; with both sides? I am actually in therapy right now because a life in absolutes is NOT working for me! LOL. Is agnosticism not unlike purgatory? 
 
I was reared Catholic and attended Mass every Sunday. Jump to now, I have my own doubts about God, Jesus and 80s fashion as good. My therapy is about the emotional mind AND the rational mind which seems to mirror some of what is being espoused here. Thus, my question is this: 
 
What room is there or what do you call someone who has lost her faith? I am not clinging to science nor am I going to talk someone out of her or his faith because I almost envy that...and miss it. But I just cannot believe there is a Judeo-Christian God because I wrestle with the precept of free will... 
 
I just want to know where I fit in here without absolutes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle to find just where I fit in&#8230;how and WHY does it have to be so &quot;all or nothing&quot; with both sides? I am actually in therapy right now because a life in absolutes is NOT working for me! LOL. Is agnosticism not unlike purgatory? </p>
<p>I was reared Catholic and attended Mass every Sunday. Jump to now, I have my own doubts about God, Jesus and 80s fashion as good. My therapy is about the emotional mind AND the rational mind which seems to mirror some of what is being espoused here. Thus, my question is this: </p>
<p>What room is there or what do you call someone who has lost her faith? I am not clinging to science nor am I going to talk someone out of her or his faith because I almost envy that&#8230;and miss it. But I just cannot believe there is a Judeo-Christian God because I wrestle with the precept of free will&#8230; </p>
<p>I just want to know where I fit in here without absolutes.</p>
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		<title>By: idon&#039;tknow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 03:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, the atheistic mindset seems rather terrifying to me. But you do bring up good points and a substantial argument and I applaud you for that. But have you researched sermons with subject topics that might (MIGHT) answer your questions or try and look up scientific/historical proof of a god?  
I&#039;m not saying you haven&#039;t!  
If you have, you deserve a second round of applause. But heaven knows I have tried to see if I can prove my own faith wrong </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, the atheistic mindset seems rather terrifying to me. But you do bring up good points and a substantial argument and I applaud you for that. But have you researched sermons with subject topics that might (MIGHT) answer your questions or try and look up scientific/historical proof of a god?<br />
I&#039;m not saying you haven&#039;t!<br />
If you have, you deserve a second round of applause. But heaven knows I have tried to see if I can prove my own faith wrong</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Lyle</title>
		<link>http://thinkreason.net/117/atheism-vs-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiffany Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can people prove that thier religion is the right one? Truth is no one can. I believe that we are saved not through religion, but through our relationship with God. I dont think that forcing people to believe in god is right because there is alot of free will in the world and we do have the right to make choices, but they have to be the right ones. 
As for explinations of God&#039;s existance...well look around! I mean if you want to believe that all the beautiful mountains and rivers and all different types of people and cultures all came about from a big explosion and humans evolved from apes then by all means believe that but I know that a God who has never had a beginning and will never had an end created earth and humans out of love. For me that seems the better option. God sent his OWN son to this world so we could be saved through him. He wanted us to have a second chance so we could live with him ETERNALLY . As I said I cant force people to believe this but if they would just listen and try to believe what so many try to tell them about God and heaven, Im sure they&#039;ll find that it makes a huge difference from living or suffering for eternity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can people prove that thier religion is the right one? Truth is no one can. I believe that we are saved not through religion, but through our relationship with God. I dont think that forcing people to believe in god is right because there is alot of free will in the world and we do have the right to make choices, but they have to be the right ones.<br />
As for explinations of God&#039;s existance&#8230;well look around! I mean if you want to believe that all the beautiful mountains and rivers and all different types of people and cultures all came about from a big explosion and humans evolved from apes then by all means believe that but I know that a God who has never had a beginning and will never had an end created earth and humans out of love. For me that seems the better option. God sent his OWN son to this world so we could be saved through him. He wanted us to have a second chance so we could live with him ETERNALLY . As I said I cant force people to believe this but if they would just listen and try to believe what so many try to tell them about God and heaven, Im sure they&#039;ll find that it makes a huge difference from living or suffering for eternity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bornslacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bornslacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 04:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s about prospective. From my point of view I&#039;m constantly fighting the religious from forcing their religion on the rest of us. Atheists don&#039;t go door to door, religious people have slapped &quot;In God We Trust&quot; on our national currency, they attempt to force their religion/morality on us by preventing gay people from marrying, and allowing women to be in control of their own body. Around the world they&#039;re mutilating female genitals, and pouring acid on the face of little girls for trying to go to school. Should I start in on 9/11, the inquisition, and organized rape and abuse of children in the Catholic church?  Are you serious right now?!?!

I fight with my words and words alone. I don&#039;t lobby to prevent anyone from peacefully practicing their religion.  I simple point out the absurdities of their claims and the flaws in their logic. Religious people brought this fight to my doorstep, not the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s about prospective. From my point of view I&#8217;m constantly fighting the religious from forcing their religion on the rest of us. Atheists don&#8217;t go door to door, religious people have slapped &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; on our national currency, they attempt to force their religion/morality on us by preventing gay people from marrying, and allowing women to be in control of their own body. Around the world they&#8217;re mutilating female genitals, and pouring acid on the face of little girls for trying to go to school. Should I start in on 9/11, the inquisition, and organized rape and abuse of children in the Catholic church?  Are you serious right now?!?!</p>
<p>I fight with my words and words alone. I don&#8217;t lobby to prevent anyone from peacefully practicing their religion.  I simple point out the absurdities of their claims and the flaws in their logic. Religious people brought this fight to my doorstep, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Why?</title>
		<link>http://thinkreason.net/117/atheism-vs-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Why?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we have to fight about these kinds of things.  Fight?  It&#039;s an all out BRAWL.  Seriously.  I mean, why not just let people have their fun with their beliefs?  I&#039;m a Christian myself, and if I explain why I believe to a person who dosn&#039;t want to hear a word of it, I leave them alone to their beliefs.  But most of the time other people (who are athiests) try to force their opinions on me.  I also don&#039;t understand why you slam people about grammar in your comments. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we have to fight about these kinds of things.  Fight?  It&#039;s an all out BRAWL.  Seriously.  I mean, why not just let people have their fun with their beliefs?  I&#039;m a Christian myself, and if I explain why I believe to a person who dosn&#039;t want to hear a word of it, I leave them alone to their beliefs.  But most of the time other people (who are athiests) try to force their opinions on me.  I also don&#039;t understand why you slam people about grammar in your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: idon&#039;tknow</title>
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		<dc:creator>idon&#039;tknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, the atheistic mindset seems rather terrifying to me. But you do bring up good points and a substantial argument and I applaud you for that. But have you researched sermons with subject topics that might (MIGHT) answer your questions or try and look up scientific/historical proof of a god? 
I&#039;m not saying you haven&#039;t! 
 If you have, you deserve a second round of applause. But heaven knows I have tried to see if I can prove my own faith wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, the atheistic mindset seems rather terrifying to me. But you do bring up good points and a substantial argument and I applaud you for that. But have you researched sermons with subject topics that might (MIGHT) answer your questions or try and look up scientific/historical proof of a god?<br />
I&#039;m not saying you haven&#039;t!<br />
 If you have, you deserve a second round of applause. But heaven knows I have tried to see if I can prove my own faith wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: bornslacker</title>
		<link>http://thinkreason.net/117/atheism-vs-christianity/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>bornslacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a god, I&#039;m all ears. That doesn&#039;t mean that I&#039;m going to relinquish my critical thinking faculties. You can be good without religion. I look at religion and I take the bits that I think are good that doesn&#039;t require me to throw logic out the window. Love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, etc. (all of which predate the bible by the way...).  
 
Not to say your approach is wrong, but it&#039;s definitely not what&#039;s in your bible. It says you must accept Jesus as your lord and savior. It doesn&#039;t say &quot;try&quot; to believe in him and keep an open mind. 
 
Either way, the quote that you stated which amounts to betting on there being a god, still presumes that there&#039;s only one god. What if you believe in Jesus and find out it was Buddha? Or perhaps you worshiped in a sect of Christianity that says you are saved by faith alone and then you die and find out it&#039;s works and faith both. There are 10,000 different sects of Christianity alone. Which one are you going to bet on? 
 
When you&#039;re looking at all the different religions, what are you using to determine which one is the correct religion? By what standard? If you pick a religion you think is true are you going to follow the morality set forth by it, even if it&#039;s at odds with your own personal morality? 
 
If I seem one sided, it&#039;s because I&#039;ve weighed the evidence and found it stacked heavily on one side, the side that says religion is man made. I at least admit that there is the possibility of god, how many religious people honestly admit that there might not be? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a god, I&#039;m all ears. That doesn&#039;t mean that I&#039;m going to relinquish my critical thinking faculties. You can be good without religion. I look at religion and I take the bits that I think are good that doesn&#039;t require me to throw logic out the window. Love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, etc. (all of which predate the bible by the way&#8230;).  </p>
<p>Not to say your approach is wrong, but it&#039;s definitely not what&#039;s in your bible. It says you must accept Jesus as your lord and savior. It doesn&#039;t say &quot;try&quot; to believe in him and keep an open mind. </p>
<p>Either way, the quote that you stated which amounts to betting on there being a god, still presumes that there&#039;s only one god. What if you believe in Jesus and find out it was Buddha? Or perhaps you worshiped in a sect of Christianity that says you are saved by faith alone and then you die and find out it&#039;s works and faith both. There are 10,000 different sects of Christianity alone. Which one are you going to bet on? </p>
<p>When you&#039;re looking at all the different religions, what are you using to determine which one is the correct religion? By what standard? If you pick a religion you think is true are you going to follow the morality set forth by it, even if it&#039;s at odds with your own personal morality? </p>
<p>If I seem one sided, it&#039;s because I&#039;ve weighed the evidence and found it stacked heavily on one side, the side that says religion is man made. I at least admit that there is the possibility of god, how many religious people honestly admit that there might not be?</p>
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